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Re: Maine State Equipment Laws
« Reply #55 on: April 14, 2014, 10:05:12 PM »
If you have commercal plates, are you required to stop at weigh station on interstate, when it is open?
Technically yes. Most of the time if you are in a personal vehicle such as a pickup they just wave you on through though. I made the mistake of not stopping once in my old dodge and was pulled over and asked why I didn't stop. I was 19 at the time I just told him I didn't realize I had to since I was only registered as commercial because of the gvwr and that I didn't use it for commerce. I got a written warning but was always waved through anytime I stopped after that.
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Re: Maine State Equipment Laws
« Reply #54 on: April 14, 2014, 12:17:20 AM »
If you have commercal plates, are you required to stop at weigh station on interstate, when it is open?
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Re: Maine State Equipment Laws
« Reply #53 on: April 13, 2014, 09:17:18 PM »
200 more per year to register as commercial?!?  That's not even close to right.  I have commercial plates on my 3/4 ton diesel.  The increased cost was around 12 dollars.

I wouldn't get to wrapped up in frame height measurements.  I have never had an inspection station measure that.  If the vehicle is lifted properly and is not ridiculously tall it is unlikely it will ever be an issue.
I always measure. A tj on 35" tires with a 4" lift is just within specs. We haven't had any lifted Jk's come in looking for sticker so I can't attest to their measurements. ... this is one of the reasons I will never go more than a 33 on my jeep. If I don't follow the law on my own vehicle I can face heavy fines and loss of license Even if I have someone else inspect it. Yes I agree Maine lift laws are ridiculous.

I also had a dodge truck at oe point in time with a 9600 gvwr the registration was only about $10 more per year to register as commercial. I think commercial registrations excise tax increase according to registered weight.
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Re: Maine State Equipment Laws
« Reply #52 on: April 12, 2014, 11:09:55 PM »
200 more per year to register as commercial?!?  That's not even close to right.  I have commercial plates on my 3/4 ton diesel.  The increased cost was around 12 dollars.

I wouldn't get to wrapped up in frame height measurements.  I have never had an inspection station measure that.  If the vehicle is lifted properly and is not ridiculously tall it is unlikely it will ever be an issue.
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Re: Maine State Equipment Laws
« Reply #51 on: April 12, 2014, 08:39:09 AM »
Hmm commercial plates? What negative side effects might one encounter?

When my dad had his one ton dually pickup, Maine made him put commercial plates on it due to the weight it could haul.  He only used it to drag his 5th wheel camper around.  What I'm getting at is that Maine and it's laws are stupid.  It's just a money issue thing.  It cost him some $200+ per year just to move his camper.     :nuts:

In other states, I see raised Jeeps and Pick-ups higher than I have ever witnessed here in Maine.  I just don't understand why Maine has such an issue with height as long as owners are reasonable about their height.  Maybe I'm not seeing the overall big picture of things.     :soap:  OK... I'll get off my soap box now.
« Last Edit: April 12, 2014, 08:46:27 AM by MaineMan »
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Re: Re: Maine State Equipment Laws
« Reply #50 on: April 12, 2014, 07:03:55 AM »
We need further adjustment of the law as my frame is at 26" on the front. :/
register it as a commercial vehicle

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Hmm commercial plates? What negative side effects might one encounter?

I had a friend get massively hassled in Tennessee for having commercial plates but no drivers log and not stopping at a weigh station!

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you can register as commercial and keep your regular plates so long as you keep stock weight limits and no advertisement on vehicle

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Re: Maine State Equipment Laws
« Reply #49 on: April 02, 2014, 08:06:29 AM »
unfortunately no there isn't.
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Re: Re: Maine State Equipment Laws
« Reply #48 on: April 01, 2014, 10:30:08 PM »
We need further adjustment of the law as my frame is at 26" on the front. :/
register it as a commercial vehicle

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That doesn't change the fact that the Gross vehicle weight RATING (GVWR) is only 4,450 pounds ... the frame height limits go by manufacturer's weight limit and NOT registered weight.

Is there any way to amend that plaque?

My 2 door jk is at 5,200 empty

I'm almost 3" taller on frame than they want me to be...

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Re: Re: Maine State Equipment Laws
« Reply #47 on: April 01, 2014, 10:27:33 PM »
We need further adjustment of the law as my frame is at 26" on the front. :/
register it as a commercial vehicle

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Hmm commercial plates? What negative side effects might one encounter?

I had a friend get massively hassled in Tennessee for having commercial plates but no drivers log and not stopping at a weigh station!

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Re: Maine State Equipment Laws
« Reply #46 on: November 16, 2013, 09:52:06 AM »
are you getting some bigger tread Matt?

The stock JK wheels have 6" of backspacing.  The rims I got have 5" and the tread sticks out less than an inch.  No problems so far for a sticker.  You can  also keep a set of stock tires/rims for inspection purposes.
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Re: Maine State Equipment Laws
« Reply #45 on: November 15, 2013, 09:53:09 PM »
What's the current word on fender flares? Do they still need to completely cover the tire tread?

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Re: Maine State Equipment Laws
« Reply #44 on: November 15, 2013, 09:29:34 PM »
What's the current word on fender flares? Do they still need to completely cover the tire tread?

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Re: Maine State Equipment Laws
« Reply #43 on: April 26, 2013, 05:16:25 PM »
The state police have been considering a 2 year sticker for a while now. I first heard the rumors from the enforcement guys about 5-6 years ago. It is still being considered but they are  trying to work out details as to how to manage it. (They were going to do any vehicle 10 years old or newer could have a 2 year sticker and anything older needed an annual inspection)
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Re: Maine State Equipment Laws
« Reply #42 on: April 26, 2013, 03:21:26 PM »
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Re: Maine State Equipment Laws
« Reply #41 on: April 26, 2013, 07:26:05 AM »
I heard a rumor that there is talk of going to a 2 year sticker, or maybe even doing away with them entirely. Was told that by a shop owner last week but have no other info to back it up.

Was that from Fylstra's? If so, I wouldn't believe it. If he told me it was going to get dark tonite, I wouldn't believe him til I saw it for myself..
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Re: Maine State Equipment Laws
« Reply #40 on: April 25, 2013, 09:43:49 PM »
^^^^true that, you wrangler guys get the shaft on the frame height.^^^^


I heard a rumor that there is talk of going to a 2 year sticker, or maybe even doing away with them entirely. Was told that by a shop owner last week but have no other info to back it up.

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Re: Re: Maine State Equipment Laws
« Reply #39 on: April 25, 2013, 09:25:32 PM »
We need further adjustment of the law as my frame is at 26" on the front. :/
register it as a commercial vehicle

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That doesn't change the fact that the Gross vehicle weight RATING (GVWR) is only 4,450 pounds ... the frame height limits go by manufacturer's weight limit and NOT registered weight.
What could POSSIBLY go wrong?

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Re: Re: Maine State Equipment Laws
« Reply #38 on: April 25, 2013, 09:08:02 PM »
We need further adjustment of the law as my frame is at 26" on the front. :/
register it as a commercial vehicle

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Re: Maine State Equipment Laws
« Reply #37 on: April 12, 2013, 01:15:23 PM »
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Re: Maine State Equipment Laws
« Reply #36 on: April 12, 2013, 07:54:22 AM »
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Re: Maine State Equipment Laws
« Reply #35 on: April 12, 2013, 06:06:26 AM »
It appears as though the law passed and the tire size limits have been stricken from the manual.

http://www.mainelegislature.org/legis/bills/getPDF.asp?paper=SP0013&item=3&snum=126

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Re: Maine State Equipment Laws
« Reply #34 on: April 11, 2013, 08:31:40 PM »
I was curious and just went out in the garage to measure mine.  Came in at 25" for the rear, which is fine, but the front is a couple inches too high at 26"...oh well. 

For the record, I have a TJ with 6" Skyjacker Rock Ready kit and 33" BFG AT's.  My wife is 5' tall and can't really get up in the Jeep as it is, so I might as well go to 35's.

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Re: Maine State Equipment Laws
« Reply #33 on: April 11, 2013, 08:09:13 PM »
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Re: Maine State Equipment Laws
« Reply #32 on: April 11, 2013, 07:00:27 PM »
thats great news, i just measured mine with 35s , its 24 front and 24 rear

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Re: Maine State Equipment Laws
« Reply #31 on: April 11, 2013, 09:57:10 AM »
When i look the bill up (ld21) it says under final disposition:
enacted april 9th 2013, govenors action: unsigned law

so it looks like its law  ;D

http://www.mainelegislature.org/legis/bills/getPDF.asp?paper=SP0013&item=3&snum=126

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Re: Maine State Equipment Laws
« Reply #30 on: April 06, 2013, 08:08:12 PM »
One of our guys posted that it passed both the Senate and the House and is awaiting Lepage's signature. He has been following it pretty closely since it started.

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Re: Maine State Equipment Laws
« Reply #29 on: April 05, 2013, 02:07:00 PM »
I think ld 21 (also known as sb 13)did pass and just needs to be signed by the gov. Anybody know for sure?
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Re: Maine State Equipment Laws
« Reply #28 on: January 29, 2013, 06:54:12 PM »
I did email the chair to help our cause

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Re: Maine State Equipment Laws
« Reply #27 on: January 29, 2013, 06:33:17 PM »
Maine Bill to Remove Restrictions on Tire Size to be Considered by Committee on Wednesday, Feb. 6

Legislation (S.B. 13) in the Maine State Senate to remove a provision in the law that requires that the overall diameter of motor vehicle tires be within 2 inches of the sizes recommended by the vehicle manufacturer will be considered by the Joint Transportation Committee on Wednesday, February 6, 2013. If you have not yet contacted committee members to voice your support, now is the time to do so.

We Urge You to Contact Joint Transportation Committee Members (List Attached) Immediately to Request Their Support for S.B. 13
The Maine Motor Vehicle Inspection Manual already requires that a vehicle will fail inspection if a tire contacts any part of the body of the vehicle.
S.B. 13 provides that a vehicle must still comply with applicable frame height requirements which vary according to gross vehicle weight rating. Because tire size will affect frame height, frame height limits can already effectively regulate against inappropriate tire size.
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Re: Maine State Equipment Laws
« Reply #26 on: January 29, 2013, 06:31:35 PM »
Thanks for the update Will  :thumbsup:
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Re: Maine State Equipment Laws
« Reply #25 on: January 29, 2013, 06:08:22 PM »
 :thumbsup:   One step closer to reasonable.
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Re: Maine State Equipment Laws
« Reply #24 on: January 29, 2013, 03:03:49 PM »
I found out on Me4x4 from BigJeep that there's an act going on to ditch the tire size verbage in 29-A. It won't change the frame height, tire contact with body/frame, or fender coverage so it won't help everyone run bigger tires, but i think it still a step in the right direction. (not to mention it would make my xj on 35s street legal  ;D)

you can find the state document if you search for 21 in the LD feild here: http://www.mainelegislature.org/legis/bills/search_ps.asp

or here http://www.mainelegislature.org/legis/bills/bills_126th/billtexts/SP001301.asp

more info
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I'm in the process of drafting up a letter to send to the committee to show my support for the act and ask for theirs. I'm sure more letters wouldn't hurt :)


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Re: Maine State Equipment Laws
« Reply #23 on: August 17, 2012, 04:06:19 PM »
there is only one referance to tire size and it does not in any way remove the size requirement.  it actually changes the way the shop inspection manual reads and refers them to maine title 29a section 1917 (rev 2/12) for tire rules and guidance.
I noticed that as well.

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« Reply #22 on: August 15, 2012, 05:20:35 AM »
no problem..there are two other state police / state of maine documents that list EVERY proposed change, and while they do ease inspectability restrictions on a ton of stupid crap, there is only one referance to tire size and it does not in any way remove the size requirement.  it actually changes the way the shop inspection manual reads and refers them to maine title 29a section 1917 (rev 2/12) for tire rules and guidance. 

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Re: Maine State Equipment Laws
« Reply #21 on: August 14, 2012, 10:29:27 PM »
Wanted to throw 2 cents in on this in case people were not aware...the 2012 inspection manual still contains the " within 2 inches " standard for tires.  The document everyone keeps seeing is a list of PROPOSED changes....none have been approved...the standards HAVE NOT CHANGED..
Here is the link to the "revised" manual currently in effect...

http://www.maine.gov/dps/msp/licenses/documents/InspectionManualEffective7.20.12.pdf

This revision is current as of july this year..
You are quite correct but almost all of the proposed changes did go into effect in the current manual. There will be more changes and fewer restrictions in the next few years. Thanks for posting the link I have it downloaded on the computer at work but have not taken the time to put it on my computer or to post it here.
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« Reply #20 on: August 14, 2012, 09:45:17 PM »
Here is the link to the "revised" manual currently in effect...

http://www.maine.gov/dps/msp/licenses/documents/InspectionManualEffective7.20.12.pdf

This revision is current as of july this year..

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« Reply #19 on: August 14, 2012, 09:34:12 PM »
Wanted to throw 2 cents in on this in case people were not aware...the 2012 inspection manual still contains the " within 2 inches " standard for tires.  The document everyone keeps seeing is a list of PROPOSED changes....none have been approved...the standards HAVE NOT CHANGED..

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« Reply #18 on: July 29, 2012, 03:11:18 PM »
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Re: Maine State Equipment Laws
« Reply #17 on: July 29, 2012, 06:20:58 AM »
thats awesome

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« Reply #16 on: July 29, 2012, 02:08:28 AM »
Nice, sweet, Awesome.... can't say enough  :clap: :clap: :clap:  :woohoo:

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Re: Maine State Equipment Laws
« Reply #15 on: July 28, 2012, 10:26:38 PM »
To whom can we send our "Thank You's" too?

We need to so that maybe we can trim the restrictions just a bit further for next year.
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Re: Maine State Equipment Laws
« Reply #14 on: July 25, 2012, 09:51:13 PM »
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Re: Maine State Equipment Laws
« Reply #13 on: July 25, 2012, 09:39:55 PM »
that is awesome. What is the law on frame height fenders?
frame height limits are still the same as they were as well as the wording that does not allow a tire's tread to stick out beyond the fender

I am trying to find a link to the latest revision, but so far have come up short I will see if I can get a copy of the paper at work
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Re: Maine State Equipment Laws
« Reply #12 on: July 25, 2012, 08:19:05 PM »
that is awesome. What is the law on frame height fenders?

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Re: Maine State Equipment Laws
« Reply #11 on: July 25, 2012, 07:00:09 PM »
WHAT-WHAT-WHAT? That is awesome!

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Re: Maine State Equipment Laws
« Reply #9 on: July 25, 2012, 05:56:01 PM »
Good news, the tire size requirements and other stuff have been removed from the inspection manual :woohoo: There are however still restrictions on frame height and fenders etc. but, you no longer have to keep a set of "inspection" tires on hand for your jeep (provided your regular tires still meet other standards such as tread depth and DOT compliance)
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Re: Maine State Equipment Laws
« Reply #8 on: February 25, 2010, 12:04:40 AM »
As far as our luck has gone with retreads on the rear of our flatbed, there is no chance in hell that we will EVER run retreads on the front of our trucks.

Maybe time to change retread companies? hehe :)
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Re: Maine State Equipment Laws
« Reply #7 on: February 24, 2010, 08:34:28 PM »
It is true the law was changed to allow retreads on the front of a truck.  As far as our luck has gone with retreads on the rear of our flatbed, there is no chance in hell that we will EVER run retreads on the front of our trucks. 

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Re: Maine State Equipment Laws
« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2010, 10:08:04 PM »
Good info thanks...  :clap: